If the minister doesn’t deny the use of RU486, we’re all gonna be muslims, people!
MP raises Islamisation fear in RU486 debate
Federal Liberal MP Danna Vale says she is supporting a Coalition-backed amendment to a bill on the abortion drug RU486 because she is concerned Australia will become dominated by Muslims.
The amendment proposed by five female Coalition backbenchers would still see the Health Minister decide on applications for RU486, after the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) had first ruled on its safety.
Parliament would have the final say.
"I've actually read in the Daily Telegraph where a certain imam from the Lakemba mosque actually said that Australia is going to be a Muslim nation in 50 years' time," she said.
"I didn't believe him at the time but when you actually look at the birthrates and you look at the fact that we are aborting ourselves almost out of existence."
Mrs Vale says apart from the morals of the issue, she is concerned about what she says are the implications for Australia's future.
"The ramifications it actually has for the community and the nation we'll become in the future is not for the decision of the TGA," she said.
Mrs Vale's concerns are not shared by the other sponsors of the amendment, including Jackie Kelly.
"I think Danna's on her own on that one," she said.
The bill will be debated in the House of Representatives this week.
You must be fucking kidding!
Translation: "It seems that our scaremongering about the explosion in abortions that will ensue as soon as these irresponsible godless bitches can get their greedy little hands on the magic pill. Holy FUCK! Maybe they'll believe that we're going to have a nation of terrorists if we pass the bill. Yeah! That'll work. We'll just leave it to the racist redneck fucks to get public opinion back on our side and we'll be able to beat that evil bill."
Actually!
MP raises Islamisation fear in RU486 debate
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RU486?
RU486: good news for women's health
The Senate voting to overturn the restrictive legislation banning RU486 is good news for democracy and good news for women's health. This reflects the broad community attitudes that politicians are not medical experts and these complex medical decisions must be referred to the Therapeutic Goods Administration, as it is for all other drugs. Now it depends on the House of Representatives to get it right this week and transfer the responsibility for importing this drug into Australia.
Incidentally, I wonder how many people are aware that RU486 does not cause the abortion of pregnancies; it simply reduces the natural progesterone and makes the uterus respond to the second medication, prostaglandin (which is an approved drug!). All this hysteria about RU486 is not relevant. But why let that get in the way of a good media story!
Dr Pieter Mourik (obstetrician and gynaecologist), WodongaAbortion, anyone?
In the RU486 Senate debate, those describing themselves as pro-choice repeatedly said the debate was not about abortion, only the process for the approval of RU486. However, all who described themselves as pro-choice voted to give responsibility for RU486 to the Therapeutics Goods Administration. On the other hand, all senators who declared themselves pro-life or anti-abortion voted to keep the control of RU486 with the Minister for Health. The Senate simply voted along lines for or against abortion.
Please, pro-choicers, be honest! Admit the RU486 debate is about abortion. Then please finish your sentences. Please tell us you are for the choice of a woman to end her baby's life.
Reverend Eugene H. Ahern, Saint Francis Xavier parish, FrankstonSo let's debate it
There is no doubt in my mind that the only reason that the pro-choice people want the responsibility for RU486 taken away from the Health Minister is to make its introduction easier. Any talk about administrative rights is just noise to hide the true purpose of the debate, which is really about abortion itself.
Australians have never had a proper debate to consider the question of abortion, nor do I expect there to be one in the near future. Instead, the laws on abortion followed the extreme examples of life-threatening illness or mental illness to justify what as claimed to be only a few cases per year. No one could ever imagine that this would lead to 90,000 per year.
Flicking responsibility of this 90,000 to the states raises the question of why federal funding is used for the procedures. Approval of money cannot be separated from how it is to be used. Approval of a drug cannot be separated from its purpose.
Damian Murphy, WestmeadowsBeyond Abbott
If politicians of an anti-abortion persuasion have the numbers, they will be successful in having approval for the use of RU486 pill determined by Health Minister Tony Abbott. However, a future health minister may not share Mr Abbott's doctrinal values and could permit its use. Will those now arguing that this should be a matter for ministerial determination accept that decision?
Roy Arnott, Reservoir
RU486 is a drug that facilitates pregnancy termination. Surgical pregnancy termination does the same thing. Anti-abortionists are attempting to completely hijack the private member's bill on who approves the drug by using it to generate a debate about abortion - which is going to continue regardless of whether or not RU486 is available. The Reverend Eugene, for example. Do these people think if they say it enough times that it will miraculously become true? Do you think that's the miracle they're praying for each night before they go to bed?
Even if the bill is defeated, abortion isn't going to be stopped. But if RU486 isn't available it will simply be a small victory for the vindictiveness of the anti-abortion lobby and their disregard for the welfare of women who have an abortion. Spiteful little cunts.
Added to that, the way that they use the emotional hyperbole is disgraceful. Fuck you, Eugene, and your guilt inducing accusation that women are killing their babies. Get off your high-moral superiority-horse and get a bit of compassion about you, fuckwit. They're not babies and your lies don't help anyone at such a point of stress in a woman's life.
As for the abortion debate in general, you might want to have a look at a new documentary, screening its world premiere at ACMI as part of the Real Life on Film documentary festival - abortion, corruption & cops: the bertram wainer story - set in times before abortion was legal, when backyard abortions were the second greatest killer of women in Australia. But then, I guess the anti-abortion lobby hasn't baulked at the challenge of murdering medical practitioners who carry out abortion procedures so why should I be surprised that they would want to take this country back to the days when the deaths of a few godless bitches wasn't such a bad thing.
And how curious that all these men see it as their place to determine what women can do with their own bodies.
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APOLOGY MADE BY JOHN HOWARD
The Games - Special Announcements
APOLOGY MADE BY JOHN HOWARD ON THE 3RD OF JULY ON NATIONAL TV
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Good evening. My name is John Howard and I'm speaking to you from Sydney, Australia, host city of the year 2000 Olympic Games.
At this important time, and in an atmosphere of international goodwill and national pride, we here in Australia - all of us - would like to make a statement before all nations. Australia, like many countries in the new world, is intensely proud of what it has achieved in the past 200 years.
We are a vibrant and resourceful people. We share a freedom born in the abundance of nature, the richness of the earth, the bounty of the sea. We are the world's biggest island. We have the world's longest coastline. We have more animal species than any other country. Two thirds of the world's birds are native to Australia. We are one of the few countries on earth with our own sky. We are a fabric woven of many colours and it is this that gives us our strength.
However, these achievements have come at great cost. We have been here for 200 years but before that, there was a people living here. For 40,000 years they lived in a perfect balance with the land. There were many Aboriginal nations, just as there were many Indian nations in North America and across Canada, as there were many Maori tribes in New Zealand and Incan and Mayan peoples in South America. These indigenous Australians lived in areas as different from one another as Scotland is from Ethiopia. They lived in an area the size of Western Europe. They did not even have a common language. Yet they had their own laws, their own beliefs, their own ways of understanding.
We destroyed this world. We often did not mean to do it. Our forebears, fighting to establish themselves in what they saw as a harsh environment, were creating a national economy. But the Aboriginal world was decimated. A pattern of disease and dispossession was established. Alcohol was introduced. Social and racial differences were allowed to become fault-lines. Aboriginal families were broken up. Sadly, Aboriginal health and education are responsibilities we have still yet to address successfully.
I speak for all Australians in expressing a profound sorrow to the Aboriginal people. I am sorry. We are sorry. Let the world know and understand, that it is with this sorrow, that we as a nation will grow and seek a better, a fairer and a wiser future. Thank you.
John Howard, July 3, 2000
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